Work in the Automotive Industry as a Quality Engineer

toniriazor

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Hello forum,

I have experience in the automotive industry as a quality engineer for 5 + years, but my university education is not related to engineering and this bothers me. Now I'd like to study engineering in the university(either master or from scratch + eventual master), but according to your experience what type of engineering (in which area) will be best suitable for the work in the automotive industry as I really like it.

Thanks for any input. Appreciated.
 

Ron Rompen

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I would recommend either Mechanical Engineering or Robotics and Automation Systems (either of those with a minor in Computer Science)
 

Miner

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If your university offers a Mechanical Technology program, that would be better as it is more directed towards application. Mechanical Engineering tends to be more design oriented. Depending on your interest and the company you work for, Electrical Technology is another option. I have a degree in Mechanical Technology with a minor in Electrical Technology and it has been invaluable in cutting through the BS excuses I got from manufacturing engineers on why something could not be done.
 

Bev D

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I’m with Miner on this one. Industrial engineering is another option. Neither of these options will contribute to high promotion levels, but that might interest you. If it does an MBA later might help…or not.
 

Miner

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I’m with Miner on this one. Industrial engineering is another option. Neither of these options will contribute to high promotion levels, but that might interest you. If it does an MBA later might help…or not.
The following is based on what I have seen in the companies at which I have worked, but I recognize that this will vary by company. MBAs seem to have fallen out of favor compared to 20-30 years ago. Advanced degrees can help land a new job from the outside (primarily to help separate otherwise equally qualified candidates) but haven't seemed to hinder people advancing within a company. On a more personal note, I have been burned hiring some people with advanced degrees/certifications and learned to value hands-on experience and practical knowledge over the education. I have advanced just fine on a bachelor's degree.
 

John Predmore

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One advice is to make a list of companies and types of jobs you are interested in, then review the level of requirements and 'preferences' which are called for in current job postings. I say types of jobs, because quality engineering is a broad field. The people who measure parts must understand basics of metrology and calibration. The people who write procedures or perform quality audits need to know ISO 9001 and other international standards. The people who generate quality metric reports, must be proficient with spreadsheets and other programs. The people who solve manufacturing problems and focus on continuous improvement, study statistics and employ programs like lean six sigma or kaizan. The people who validate or improve designs, use design of experiments or tools like design for manufacturability. The people who validate software have their own specialized knowledge. Read the Certified Quality Engineer Body of Knowledge on the American Society of Quality website (you don't have to be a member to view the BoK) for the full gamut of what CQEs do and know. Maybe you are interested to focus on one particular aspect to get started.

A few years ago, when I found myself suddenly in job search mode, I made an appointment for a 15-minute face-to-face conversation with the job recruiter at a local search firm, like Kelly Technical Services or Adecco. I brought my resume and got some valuable advice on the current job market, what hiring managers were looking for, and how to best present myself. In my locale, there was also a job assistance office run by the state Dept of Labor which provides free career consulting, resume workshops, and interview practice sessions. I find people in job search are generous with their time and advice, as long as you don't monopolize anyone's time. You could also ask for an audience with a engineering professor at the local college for career advice. If your community has an ASQ or other professional society chapter, that would be another source of free, relevant advice. I find there are many people who simply want to help a member of the community in need. (That is why people come here to Elsmar.)
 

Miner

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You could also ask for an audience with a engineering professor at the local college for career advice.
I agreed with everything you said except for this. Most professors seem sadly out of touch with what companies really want, particularly in industry.
 

toniriazor

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I’m with Miner on this one. Industrial engineering is another option. Neither of these options will contribute to high promotion levels, but that might interest you. If it does an MBA later might help…or not.
I was thinking about industrial engineering as well as I pay a lot of attention to improving process lay-outs created by industrial department in the plant where I work and eliminate unnecessary waste in the production process. Another field that calls my attention is related to human ergonomics which relates directly to the industrial engineering operations. People in the office often don't care what's happening on the shop floor and how people suffer when executing certain operations simply not well designed and integrated into the process. I really like improving this part of the process and make people feel better on their work place, which results in less rejection rates and etc.


If your university offers a Mechanical Technology program, that would be better as it is more directed towards application. Mechanical Engineering tends to be more design oriented. Depending on your interest and the company you work for, Electrical Technology is another option. I have a degree in Mechanical Technology with a minor in Electrical Technology and it has been invaluable in cutting through the BS excuses I got from manufacturing engineers on why something could not be done.
Thanks for the advcie. My particular experience so far is in the automotive wiring harness industry, but I think I will move soon to another sector of injection moulding of plastics components, again in the field of the automotive industry. Can you share briefly what is the general scope of work for a Mechanical Technology professional?

One advice is to make a list of companies and types of jobs you are interested in, then review the level of requirements and 'preferences' which are called for in current job postings. I say types of jobs, because quality engineering is a broad field. The people who measure parts must understand basics of metrology and calibration. The people who write procedures or perform quality audits need to know ISO 9001 and other international standards. The people who generate quality metric reports, must be proficient with spreadsheets and other programs. The people who solve manufacturing problems and focus on continuous improvement, study statistics and employ programs like lean six sigma or kaizan. The people who validate or improve designs, use design of experiments or tools like design for manufacturability. The people who validate software have their own specialized knowledge. Read the Certified Quality Engineer Body of Knowledge on the American Society of Quality website (you don't have to be a member to view the BoK) for the full gamut of what CQEs do and know. Maybe you are interested to focus on one particular aspect to get started.

A few years ago, when I found myself suddenly in job search mode, I made an appointment for a 15-minute face-to-face conversation with the job recruiter at a local search firm, like Kelly Technical Services or Adecco. I brought my resume and got some valuable advice on the current job market, what hiring managers were looking for, and how to best present myself. In my locale, there was also a job assistance office run by the state Dept of Labor which provides free career consulting, resume workshops, and interview practice sessions. I find people in job search are generous with their time and advice, as long as you don't monopolize anyone's time. You could also ask for an audience with a engineering professor at the local college for career advice. If your community has an ASQ or other professional society chapter, that would be another source of free, relevant advice. I find there are many people who simply want to help a member of the community in need. (That is why people come here to Elsmar.)
My interest is mainly in the Automotive sector and it is where I feel more comfortable working at this stage of my life. In the future If I see the need to switch the sector I might consider working in other industry , like pharmaceutical QMS field or other similar industry where the tools and knowledge from the automotive sector are applicable.

I will also have a look on the book you mentioned. Thanks!
 

optomist1

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Miner said it best...."learned to value hands-on experience and practical knowledge over the education.", and in my experience this is equally valid. A great combo is when one engages in several industry co-op terms...hands-on in the trenches experience is priceless, esp. in Automotive...err, Mobility fields. One need only experience 2-3 vehicle launches to attain a clearer view of reality...in real time. Book smart is great yet one must think on your feet in the daily cadence of production...problem solving etc. Thanks Miner!!!
 
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