Quality Career Without a Degree

Kurt Smith

Starting to get Involved
I recently got my first position as a quality manager at a small fab shop. I've worked in manufacturing for most of 10 years, about half of that an inspector of some kind. I hope to eventualy move towards positions in larger companies. Quality management. Quality engineering. Even specialty inspection. They all seem interesting to me. Problem is I've never been to college. How much will this hold me back?
How far can I expect to go without a college degree? How effective will certifications be at offsetting the college?
 

Jen Kirley

Quality and Auditing Expert
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Hello Kurt, congratulations on your new job!

This is a tough question to answer because:
  1. Good Quality Managers are in demand
  2. The degree programs for Quality Assurance Management are in their relatively early years
  3. There are certifications you can get based on workplace experience at a cost of around $700 US including (good used) study materials
  4. Requirements are often set by people who don't fully understand their value, so in the job market you might not get past the early screening without a degree listed in the job description
I worked in QA without a degree for many years. Even now my Bachelors in Applied Technical Education is considered of dubious value, my Masters in Organizational Leadership is a little better but not well understood.

I made my way by collecting certifications - several by now - and found the real value is in what I learned though employers still like the CSSB although I don't actually use it. My point is, you can do the certifications through your own self-paced self study, and at a reasonable cost.

What kind of inspection did you do? That can be good work. I used to do Level II NDT. I enjoyed it but never did it again after leaving the Navy.

Quality Assurance is a diverse field. You are doing the right thing by starting as an inspector; if you move to management you would be hobbled by not knowing how things really work on the floor.

Would your current employer be willing to subsidize your education or certifications? I would reasonably expect a contract to work for a period of time in exchange for that. To get my Masters that period was 2 years, a very good bargain. I got my certifications on my own dime. These days the only one I maintain is CQM/OE, plus the Exemplar certs for auditing QMS and Responsible Care. These days I am not sure the Exemplar certs are worth maintaining due to their cost, but I keep employer perception in mind for the QMS. I have to maintain the Responsible Care cert to continue 3rd party auditing.

Anyway, since you are interested in many things I would seriously consider sticking with your current gig if they are willing to invest in your professional growth. You might be locked in to a narrow discipline if you go to a big place, like I currently am with supplier quality.

This was a long post for my saying advice would be hard. I hope this helps.

Disclaimer: I am an ASQ member.
 

Kurt Smith

Starting to get Involved
Hey thanks for the response! I hadn't heard of the Google degree programs. I may have to look into that.
I've actually already gotten my CSSYB last year. I plan to get the green belt in the next year. And I've been eying the ASQ Quality Engineer certification for later down the line.
For work experience, I have a weirdly wide net of quality jobs done. But each only for a few months. I worked 3 years at an airline seat plant. In that time I did everything from line inspections to first article drawing review.

My current employer definitely won't fund my education. But my main question is if it's worth working towards a degree. Is an associates degree worth anything in this field or would I need a Bachelors if anything? Or will experience and certifications be enough for me to get interviews?

All of this is planning for 2 or 3 years out. My current position is great and I want to be here a while. I just want to know what to work towards for the next couple years.
 

Kurt Smith

Starting to get Involved
I expected that. The job market is still tilted toward the degree. Which QA discipline did you search?
In my area any listing for senior inspector, quality management, or quality engineering will expect a degree. I'm not afraid to apply without it. I just wanted to guage how important people felt the degree was. Or how much weight something like a CQE or CSSGB held compared to the degree.
And it's not like I am actively looking at jobs right now. Just future planning.
 

Jen Kirley

Quality and Auditing Expert
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Admin
Oh sorry. I just searched quality on Indeed and set the salary to 60k+.
Well that would limit you wouldn't it? Is that what you will be earning in your new job with the small fab shop? If yes, it seems to me a good idea to keep cranking away with the certifications until you can get to a place that will sponsor higher education.
 

optomist1

A Sea of Statistics
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full disclosure, I have not read the fine responses above; should your employer (see above Jen's post) provide education reimbursement, pursuing a degree whilst (just learned this neat British term), working for them should yield some advantages. Your "work/profession" will augment your formal learning, and vice-a-versa, a kind of on-going co-op program...

hope this helps...
optomist1
 
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