Updating a Quality Manual from ISO 9001:2000 to ISO 9001:2008

Re: ISO 9001:2008 and Quality Manual

AndyN said:

Can you expand on your comment, James?

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When I first started to review our QMS Documentation set for the systems I am involved with, I needed to try and understand the main differences between ISO9001:2000 and ISO9001:2008. The most significant change was that the organisation should have systems/ methods that deal with the management of Risk. Risk can take may forms and therefore a RISK Management policy statement and associated set of supporting documents were created. This development not only satisfied the requirements of the Standard but also the organisation's requirement for Emergency Planning and Business Continuity (ISO 25999).
With respect to the rest of the document set the only changes we have made have been the renumbering, as stated by other Covers.
We also took thr opporunity to "refresh" the communication methods, but that was a local choice and not directly related to the updated standard.

Re: ISO 9001:2008 and Quality Manual

jamesscs said:

When I first started to review our QMS Documentation set for the systems I am involved with, I needed to try and understand the main differences between ISO9001:2000 and ISO9001:2008. The most significant change was that the organisation should have systems/ methods that deal with the management of Risk. Risk can take may forms and therefore a RISK Management policy statement and associated set of supporting documents were created. This development not only satisfied the requirements of the Standard but also the organisation's requirement for Emergency Planning and Business Continuity (ISO 25999).
With respect to the rest of the document set the only changes we have made have been the renumbering, as stated by other Covers.
We also took the opportunity to "refresh" the communication methods, but that was a local choice and not directly related to the updated standard.

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Are you referring to the following paragraph from ISO 9001:2008?

0.1 General
The adoption of a quality management system should be a strategic decision of an organization. The design and implementation of an organization's quality management system is influenced by
a) its organizational environment, changes in that environment, and the risks associated with that environment,

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Re: ISO 9001:2008 and Quality Manual

jamesscs said:

When I first started to review our QMS Documentation set for the systems I am involved with, I needed to try and understand the main differences between ISO9001:2000 and ISO9001:2008. The most significant change was that the organisation should have systems/ methods that deal with the management of Risk.

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There is nothing in the 2008 version that specifically says that the organization should have systems/methods for dealing with risk management above and beyond what might have been present under the 2000 version.

0.1 was changed to read in part that "...The design and implementation of an organization's quality management system is influenced by...its organizational environment, changes in that environment, and the risks associated with that environment..."

We already knew this. If you take a broad view, the whole of ISO 9001 is about risk management of one sort or another. Risks associated with failure to control documents, with failure to have an effective corrective action system, etc. If you think that some sort of risk management system is a good idea in your company, that's fine, but I hope you didn't go there because you thought it was a new requirement of the standard.

Re: ISO 9001:2008 and Quality Manual

Jim Wynne said:

If you take a broad view, the whole of ISO 9001 is about risk management of one sort or another. Risks associated with failure to control documents, with failure to have an effective corrective action system, etc. If you think that some sort of risk management system is a good idea in your company, that's fine, but I hope you didn't go there because you thought it was a new requirement of the standard.

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Well said.

Re: ISO 9001:2008 and Quality Manual

jamesscs said:

When I first started to review our QMS Documentation set for the systems I am involved with, I needed to try and understand the main differences between ISO9001:2000 and ISO9001:2008. The most significant change was that the organisation should have systems/ methods that deal with the management of Risk. Risk can take may forms and therefore a RISK Management policy statement and associated set of supporting documents were created. This development not only satisfied the requirements of the Standard but also the organisation's requirement for Emergency Planning and Business Continuity (ISO 25999).
With respect to the rest of the document set the only changes we have made have been the renumbering, as stated by other Covers.
We also took thr opporunity to "refresh" the communication methods, but that was a local choice and not directly related to the updated standard.

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Are you perhaps thinking about the difference between AS9100B and AS9100C? Risk has been greatly expanded in the latest version of the aerospace standard.

Re: ISO 9001:2008 and Quality Manual

There are no major changes in ISO 9001:2008 except for some clarifications of terms used ..so when you're registered to ISO 9001:2000, all you have to do is review your manual and change some wordings there...and reprint it into ISO 9001:2008... I think that would be all...except if you've made some changes in your operations....

Re: ISO 9001:2008 and Quality Manual

jeddex said:

There is no major changes in ISO 9001:2008 except for some clarifications of terms used ..so when your registered to ISO 9001:2000, all you have to do is review your manual and change some wordings there...and reprint it into ISO 9001:2008... I think that would be all...except if you've made some changes in your operations....

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If there are no major changes as you said, the corresponding impacts of 'changes' will not be major, so why to change 'some wordings' and reprint the manual? There's no requirement that the manual should necessarily have mention of ISO standard's version date such as ISO 9001:2008.

Re: ISO 9001:2008 and Quality Manual

samsung said:

There's no requirement that the manual should necessarily have mention of ISO standard's version date such as ISO 9001:2008.

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Great Humour! When a girl was married, in older times her title changed from Miss to Mrs. So 2000 must become 2008, until..

Until you evolve a short term as Ms. currently used