Right, just because they "said so." Is there really a reasonably articulable reason that it shouldn't apply to the automakers?
IATF 16949 QMS in OEM
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I agree that in practice, there is no reason why not. The resulting QMS may not be awarded an IATF certificate, however, all the requirements of IATF can be implemented in an OEM plant - been there, done that - however, the resulting certification may be an ISO 9001 one. I believe that would be an acceptable option.
Nah. The IATF audit is much harder than the ISO audit. It’s really just a matter of practice what you preach.
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Thank you for all your answers, however, more than the actual certification, the task is to have an implemented QMS. The direction I have received to create the System is pretty vague, and support from top management is not that great either. At this moment, I will only be able to create certain procedures. In short words, regardless of ISO 9001, IATF 16949, there must be a system implemented, that is the task and where I have many problems, because it is very different from a Tier 1.
In my research, I have found that certain ford, GM or FCA plants have received IATF certification, I have no proof though. What do we know about this? based on your sources, do you think you can confirm or deny those companies get certified?, If they are not certified, I am pretty sure they have a system in place, because they are very demanding with Tier 1.
In my research, I have found that certain ford, GM or FCA plants have received IATF certification, I have no proof though. What do we know about this? based on your sources, do you think you can confirm or deny those companies get certified?, If they are not certified, I am pretty sure they have a system in place, because they are very demanding with Tier 1.
Everybody has some system in place — good bad or ugly. The whole point behind the standards and certification is to somewhat standardize things. Kind of get people on the same platform With regards to a QMS.
So if you’re just looking to formalize your QMS in line with a standard, the logical place to start is with ISO 9001. That will give you enough headaches.
Elver.Gatieza
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Everybody has some system in place — good bad or ugly. The whole point behind the standards and certification is to somewhat standardize things. Kind of get people on the same platform With regards to a QMS.
So if you’re just looking to formalize your QMS in line with a standard, the logical place to start is with ISO 9001. That will give you enough headaches.
I don't disagree with you, however, that was not my question.
Specifically, I'm seeking information from those who have commented here regarding an OEM plant certification. I'm interested in any available details or insights regarding this topic. My aim is to acquire a comprehensive overview of their systems. I understand that this information may be highly sensitive and confidential, but I'm eager to gain a better understanding.
Randy
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Not really, just like everyone else's, their systems meet the basic requirements of 16949.
Not sure why you’re concerned with other OEMs and their system. As Randy stated they simply meet the requirement. How are other OEMs systems relevant to your organization. Maybe certain aspects and best practices.
Johnnymo62
Haste Makes Waste
I searched on IAF Certification Validation - IAF CertSearch and found only these Ford operations have a QMS cert and they are all ISO 9001.
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