QA and only QA, or Jack of all Duties? Crossing Departmental Boundaries

Wes Bucey

Prophet of Profit
Would it surprise anyone that my consulting practice often encounters "problems" of overloaded personnel?

Probably not. May I suggest (short of hiring a pro consultant with a practice and philosophy akin to mine) that this is simply a ROOT CAUSE problem to which the tools of Quality can be applied for a solution?

When a consultant comes in, he may be completely transparent to the client that he is using these tools and enlist the help of client employees in deploying the tools or he can bring in his own expensive team and keep the client and employees in the dark about what goes on "behind the curtain."

MY EXPERIENCE IS that, regardless of the style or price, EVERY successful consultant uses the ROOT CAUSE ANALYSIS tools to isolate the root cause and then examine possible solutions.

Alas, sometimes the truly effective solution is neither economically or politically (in the hierarchy of the company) practical.

As I grew more and more experienced as a consultant, I was able to recognize those potential clients where the political landmines of bosses or investors made implementing ANY solutions more difficult than the job would pay. Refusing such assignments can be fraught with danger for any consultant who is in desperate need of a paycheck to keep the doors open lest he get a reputation as a "cherry picker."

Conversely, as my experience grew along with my contacts in various fields of industry and finance, I found it easier and more lucrative to seek out more complicated situations where I could employ a synergy of financing, marketing, engineering innovation, and operating efficiency to provide a satisfactory solution to a perceived problem.

The basic process of identifying the root cause has remained the same for forty-plus years.
 
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normzone

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Would it surprise anyone that my consulting practice often encounters "problems" of overloaded personnel? ....

.... Alas, sometimes the truly effective solution is neither economically or politically (in the hierarchy of the company) practical.

Yeah, it's not uncommon to reach the conclusion that the root cause is inadequate resources, then have to go looking for some other way to put it because that phrase is anathema.
 
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normzone

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Damn ....

A search for root + cause + resources leads me to my own post.

I have a bad situation - our external audit crashed and burned, and all the nonconformances documented lead to a lack of resources as the root cause. I don't know if I'm going to be able to write my way out of this one.
 

Jen Kirley

Quality and Auditing Expert
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Damn ....

A search for root + cause + resources leads me to my own post.

I have a bad situation - our external audit crashed and burned, and all the nonconformances documented lead to a lack of resources as the root cause. I don't know if I'm going to be able to write my way out of this one.
I've written a major for lack of resources. It was very unfortunate. But how would your writing be expected to compensate for top management not fully supporting the QMS?
 

AndyN

Moved On
Damn ....

A search for root + cause + resources leads me to my own post.

I have a bad situation - our external audit crashed and burned, and all the nonconformances documented lead to a lack of resources as the root cause. I don't know if I'm going to be able to write my way out of this one.

Are you absolutely certain? Can you share some examples, without giving too much away? I'm often seeing that it's not resources that are the issue, but an ineffective QMS, first and foremost...
 

normzone

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a) Materials identification inadequate - previously noted in both external and then internal audit - person responsible for this is doing the work of eight men at this time, and lacks delegation skills

b) Same person not conducting training per schedule noted in management review, same reason

This is a sample - upon further reflection not all nonconformances fall directly into this category, but there's just too few people carrying too much load and not enough sales to provide funding for many needs.
 

AndyN

Moved On
a) Materials identification inadequate - previously noted in both external and then internal audit - person responsible for this is doing the work of eight men at this time, and lacks delegation skills

b) Same person not conducting training per schedule noted in management review, same reason

This is a sample - upon further reflection not all nonconformances fall directly into this category, but there's just too few people carrying too much load and not enough sales to provide funding for many needs.

So I'd ask:

What was inadequate about the materials identification? What was the effect of this "inadequacy"? Shipped the wrong stuff? Delays, trying to figure out what it actually was (sorting things etc). It sounds like a subjective comment to me.

Was the training so magical that the training HAD to be done as prescribed in the schedule? What was the effect? I'm not convinced it's a resources issue yet...
 

Golfman25

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"Lack of resources" is usually a cop out. Sure, if you have money you can buy your way out of problems. For those of us who don't, we have to be creative and come up with solutions to our problems.
 
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