ISO 9001 News ISO 9001:2015 Amendment 1 Published - Determination of Climate Change Relevance * Poll added May 2024
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So let's say my company agrees that climate change is real, but that it has minimal impact on our business. Some of or customers are very large corporations with highly publicized Environmental and Carbon Reduction initiatives such as the European CDP. Our response to all of these customers is we are a small company and simply do not have the resources to pursue such initiatives.
What is next? Do we need to start making up or generating climate change impacting actions to simply satisfy the ISO auditor?
Brett Sande
Registered
Since we need to now consider all relevant issues, I need to start working on a plan to address periodic solar eclipses, of which the next will likely paralyze the eastern half of the U.S. for a day or so.
Just to prove the point that this amendment making it mandatory for the organization to assess CC as part of the QMS, is totally arbitrary, CC was not even covered in those two sections of 9001 in the guidance available in the TS 9002 standard, released in 2016. Were the authors of that document so out of touch? Or someone at ISO got overly excited with the London declaration?
In an attempt to help you understand here is the definition of jargon from the Oxford Learners Dictionary:
words or expressions that are used by a particular profession or group of people, and are difficult for others to understand medical/legal/computer, etc. jargon Try to avoid using too much technical jargon.
Here it is from an American English Dictionary:
words and expressions that are used in special or technical ways by particular groups of people, often making the language difficult to understand.
When you use terms that ordinary people are not familiar with you should expect poor understanding. Or you can simply ignore it because they are not important.
Have you determined that CC is a relevant issue to your company?
Why yes it is.
Are you implementing a plan to mitigate its impact on your company?
Mitigate? We sell solar panels and climate change is our main business driver.
JIm,
Ya see, ya got your ISO and TMBG and JTCG producing a harmonized structure. It's harmonized, see? Harmony is good.
And your ISO/IAF communique providing guidance for da MSS. Guidance, see? Guidance is good.
And the TC's and the mirror groups give input to da JTCG. Input, see? Input is good.
No jargon, clear as can be!
Ya see, ya got your ISO and TMBG and JTCG producing a harmonized structure. It's harmonized, see? Harmony is good.
And your ISO/IAF communique providing guidance for da MSS. Guidance, see? Guidance is good.
And the TC's and the mirror groups give input to da JTCG. Input, see? Input is good.
No jargon, clear as can be!
Well I’m not seeing those committee names as jargon, but acronyms of entities in a structure that most Quality people don’t understand. This is part of the lack of transparency and accountability of the whole ISO thing. But many here also use inside baseball words like when people just quote section numbers and don’t state what the section says.
qualitymanagerTT
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Was the London Declaration also in 2016?
Randy
Super Moderator
Simple answer, don't waste time or effort trying to satisfy an auditor. All you need to do is "determine" nothing else is actually required as of yet.
