New version of OHSAS 18001

Re: OHSAS 18001 New version???

There are lots of similarities between Z10 and 18001 with a few glaring differences.

Z10 does not place ultimate responsibility for H&S on Top Management (owners, senior management or whatever you want to call the actual decision makers and money holders). This goes back to the "Behavior Based Safety" thing of empowerment, we all equally share, blah, blah, blah.

Z10 doesn't require the documentation of any type of procedure, instruction or whatever. This goes to the crowd that doesn't want to have their feet held to the fire and actually have to do what they state they will. "Oh, what we meant to say was, blah, blah, blah...."

There are some others too.

Z10...good document, but it does have some otential weakness because it had to be PC. Blah, blah, blah.

Re: OHSAS 18001 New version???

Another feature of ANSI Z10 is the way that it is organized with a column of more detailed guidance; it is like putting OHSAS 18001 and I8002 in the same document.

My point in saying that the two documents are more alike than not is to say that it would not take a world of effort to make a combined document into an ISO standard (not like starting from scratch).

Re: OHSAS 18001 New version???

Okay, quick question. I have Working Draft 1 (31Jan 2006) with Charles' letter dated 1 June 2006. Has a Final Draft been published, or do I have the latest copy?

Anyone know?

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db said:

Has a Final Draft been published, or do I have the latest copy?
Anyone know?

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The latest version that I have is Working Draft # 2, dated November 30, 2006.

Ansi Z10

Does anyone have an up-to-date status of ANSI Z10? I know from my conversations with an ANAB contractor about a year ago that ANAB had indefinitely postponed its pilot program for ANSI Z10 audits by registrars. I also understand that a few registrars have issued unaccredited ANSI Z10 certifications. Does anyone know which registrars those are? I heard rumors that OSHA might require ANSI Z10 implementation for new VPP applicants; the last I heard though was that they had not implemented that action.

Does anyone have any more up-to-date news?

Re: New version of OHSAS 18001?

In my humble opinion Z10 currently is a boondoggle. There have been comments about OSHA's tie in with Z10, but I have not seen it. I know that we have not had any inquiries for registration and that 18001 is the going thing and getting stronger. Be that as it may here is what had been reported by ANAB. So far it seems that Intertek and UL are the only CB's in the ballgame.

CB Intertek Systems Certifications (formerly Intertek Testing Services NA, Inc.)
Standard Z10 (OHSMS)
Country Mexico
# of Certs 2


CB Intertek Systems Certifications (formerly Intertek Testing Services NA, Inc.)
Standard Z10 (OHSMS)
Country Thailand
# of Certs 1


CB Intertek Systems Certifications (formerly Intertek Testing Services NA, Inc.)
Standard Z10 (OHSMS)
Country Turkey
# of Certs 6


CB Intertek Systems Certifications (formerly Intertek Testing Services NA, Inc.)
Standard Z10 (OHSMS)
Country United States
# of Certs 21


CB Intertek Systems Certifications (formerly Intertek Testing Services NA, Inc.)
Standard Z10 (OHSMS)
Country Canada
# of Certs 2


CB Intertek Systems Certifications (formerly Intertek Testing Services NA, Inc.)
Standard Z10 (OHSMS)
Country China
# of Certs 17


CB Underwriters Laboratories
Standard Z10 (OHSMS)
Country India
# of Certs 3


CB Underwriters Laboratories
Standard Z10 (OHSMS)
Country United States
# of Certs 1


Total
53

Re: New version of OHSAS 18001?

Randy said:

So far it seems that Intertek and UL are the only CB's in the ballgame.

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I don't believe these numbers. I am sure there was a mistake here. And on top of that, why non accredited certs would be listed in this database maintained by ANAB?

This database is flawed. Some "large" CB's don't have their data there. I wonder why...what are they afraid of? Maybe their inflated marketing numbers don't hold true when scrutinized?

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Who knows/ I just got curious and found the numbers.

I'm curious about the lack of information myself on some CB's certificate total's.


Anyway, back to the subject............

I just got word that the release of OHSAS 18001:2007 will be around July 2nd. This may or may not be an absolute, but that's what's been passed to me in the last couple of hours.

Re: New version of OHSAS 18001?

Randy said:

I just got word that the release of OHSAS 18001:2007 will be around July 2nd. This may or may not be an absolute, but that's what's been passed to me in the last couple of hours.

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The anticipation is killing me...Just kidding. Thanks for the information.

Randy said:

I'm curious about the lack of information myself on some CB's certificate total's.

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Really? I thought you had connections with at least one of them, which has not provided ANAB with their data...

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Sidney Vianna said:

The anticipation is killing me...Just kidding. Thanks for the information.Really? I thought you had connections with at least one of them, which has not provided ANAB with their data...

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Yeah, I know whereof you speak. Don't even ask me, I'm just another one of many faces and definitely not at the decision making level.