OHSAS 18001 is not an ISO standard yet. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Now it is! March 2018

That would make things a lot easier I know, but unfortunately

ISO 18000 is an international standard that describes a series of diverse RFID technologies

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(Wikipedia). I guess 45001 was the next number in line. Having said that, I think ISO rolls of the tongue better than OHSAS

I wonder if Henria will complain about this turn of events?

Hello !

No Randy, I will not complain to see at international level in addition to ILO-OSH to see an ISO 45001 standard, with national standards in some countries as U.S., Canada, UK, Australia...

And you, are you complaining to replace the BSI OSHMS standard by ISO 45001 standard, without using your own US standard ?

Bye.

Hello !

Helmut Jilling said:

Also happy to hear they [ISO] will adapt from [BS] OHSAS 18001, rather than starting from scratch...thanks for informing us.

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Helmut, I don't think that to say "ISO will adapt ISO 45001 from BS OHSAS 18001" is the profound truth if you go back to the birth of this British Standard : for me it is only an appearance (I should perhaps say a facification of the reality) arising from a so-called creation self-declaration of this standard in 1999. In reality it was a simple a copy of a work produced by ISO... So in fact ISO will adapt soon ISO 45001 from its own work !

Think about that and you'll see it's exact even if perhaps surprising for some colleagues. Bye.

Yes, I was happy that 18001 derived from a direct copy of 14001 originally. It made automatic harmony between Safety and Environmental very easy. For that reason I am delighted that ISO will use 18001 as the basis for 45000 - to retain harmony between EMS and Safety, and make it easy to integrate the two.

So Helmut, we quite agree !

BS OHSAS 18001** was officially “based” on BS 8800 (which became the excellent BS OHSAS 18004**). But in fact BS OHSAS 18001 (you allways forget "BS") was “hacked” from ISO 18001. Therefor if ISO 45001 will be derived from BS OHSAS 18001, in reality ISO 45001 will be derived from ISO 14001. This is the naked truth, as we say at home.
** with adding an ILO-OSH nail few years ago.

An other idea : to integrate different SM, formal harmony between EMS and OSHMS models is not so important, because all MS models are in internal harmony eachother on the pottom. “Proof” : ISO 9001 or ILO-OSH are not formally structured in the same form or as ISO 14001 form, but we can yet have a good IMS in our compagnies !

Thank you. Bye.

The first version of OHSAS 18001 I saw and audited to was a direct adaptation of ISO 14001:2004...word for word, section for section. They did a search and replace from E to H&S, and changed a few words, but precious little.

Yes indeed Helmut ! Same for me...

15 yearrs ago, it nevertheless need a dozen different organizations around BSI, consultating many SM reference documents (but curiously ISO 14001 is not listed) and probably several sessions for directly "adapt" ISO 14001 "word for word", "section for section", "by just replacing E by OSH"... what a great job !

I hope this time the creation of ISO 45001 will consult and derive from the different good existing OHSMS standards (ILO-OSH, BS OHSAS 18004, ANSI-AIHA Z10, CSA Z1000...) rather than only the single EMS ISO 14001 ! And so my curiousity is "But why have therefore wanted to create one more OSHMS standard" ?

Bye.

ISO PC 283 has released the first draft of the upcoming ISO 45001, which is available for purchase.

Henria said:

Hello !

No Randy, I will not complain to see at international level in addition to ILO-OSH to see an ISO 45001 standard, with national standards in some countries as U.S., Canada, UK, Australia...

And you, are you complaining to replace the BSI OSHMS standard by ISO 45001 standard, without using your own US standard ?

Bye.

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Hi Henria, I dont think you meant for the above to come across as it sounded to me and I'm sure to agree with me that respect is a key value on this site.

Disagreement is never a problem on this site but sometimes we can package things in a way that can come across in a way that is not intended. A way to ensure this is ask, how might what I've written sound to the reader?

cheers