The Future Structure of ISO Management System Standards - from HLS to HS (Harmonized Structure) September 2023

A refinement to that:
"to recognise and manage those factors which may impact on how a process is defined or operates, or on its ability to achieve its objectives".
I think that covers the impact of a process externally as well as the impact on the process from external factors.

Peter Fraser said:

If ISO could only understand that process management requires (and always has required) an organisation "to recognise and manage those factors which may impact on the ability of a process to achieve its objectives", then all these specific factors that randomly come to mind for one or other committee member would be covered generically. No need to keep changing requirements...

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There's no money (in selling new standard revisions) in that kinda thinking.

I think it's time for the USA to opt out of the "international" standards.

Johnnymo62 said:

I think it's time for the USA to opt out of the "international" standards.

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I think it would be a mistake for the largest economy in the world to decouple from universal standardization efforts.

What we need is for ISO leadership and their committees pawns to remain in the technical sphere and stop attempting at being political actors and social media influencers. If they really think having that one statement in the Harmonized Structure framework for the ISO MSS’s will move an iota in terms of climate change, they are delusional and/or delirious.

Mike S. said:

If the auditor is overweight

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Define or quantify overweight.

Randy said:

Define or quantify overweight.

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When you say you are 'sitting around the house,' and parts of your body extend past the perimeter of the house, on all sides.

Randy said:

Define or quantify overweight.

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I'd let the auditor self-identify.