ISO 13485:2015 Pre-Release News and Discussion

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yzl1018

Re: ISO 13485:2016 Pre-Release News and Discussion

:) Hello! A small question need your kindly help.
How to know the implementation date of one ISO standard?
For example, ISO 13485:2003 was published on July.15, 2003, can we consider the implementation date is that day? Is there any transitional period?
Thank you in advance.
note: we can find the publication date on the standard, however, we can't find the implementation date on the standard.
 

Marcelo

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Re: ISO 13485:2016 Pre-Release News and Discussion

Hi.

Standards are usually voluntary, so there?s no "date for implementation" (although some may suggest a transition period from old to new ones). The implementation date depends on why you are implementing them. For example,, if you are under a certification scheme, the scheme will usually have an implementation date including a transition period. If you are implementing them due to some regulatory requirement such as CE Marking, the regulations will usually define a transition period.
 
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knoxoem

Re: ISO 13485:2016 Pre-Release News and Discussion

Can you share briefly what the changes are? Is this change only for EN or for domestic USA also?
 

Marcelo

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Hello knoxoem and welcome to the Cove!

Can you share briefly what the changes are?

Nope, there?s too many small changes, sorry. But you can read the posts in the thread for some insights.

Is this change only for EN or for domestic USA also?

The changes are for the international ISO version.
 
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Marcelo

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Re: ISO 13485:2016 Pre-Release News and Discussion

ISO TC 210 WG 1 meet at Stockholm on the week of September 10 to discuss the continuing revision of ISO 13485 (which had a negative vote at the DIS stage).

The discussions were great, however, due to the number of comments, it was not possible to finish revising them all on the 3-day meeting. Due to that, WG 1 will have an additional meeting on the first week of December on New Orleans, USA, for a new 3-day meeting to finish the comments. After that meeting, a second DIS will be circulated to the NCs.
 

liuyy

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Re: ISO 13485:2016 Pre-Release News and Discussion

Then ISO 13485 may be finalised by the end of 2015?
 
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gramaley

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The point regarding the use of ISO 13485 for distributors is increasingly important. The Asian Harmonization Working Party are developing a guidance document on Good Distribution Practices, which is aligned with ISO 13485.

What many "Developed" countries (especially here in the USA) fail to understand, is that most medical devices traded within a developing country are introduced to the market through local distributors, and not through the original manufacturer. For example, I collected statistics from Health Science Authority of Singapore, and here are some interesting facts.

There are more than 800 distributors of medical devices in Singapore.
There are 130 registered medical device manufacturers in Singapore
There are 71 registered medical devices firms in Singapore, registered with the US FDA. Almost half do not sell into the USA at all!

Most developing countries trade medical devices regionally or locally and do not sell to the US or Europe! In none English speaking countries like Thailand only 20% of the manufacturers are registered to sell into the USA. Singapore has more than 50% selling to the USA, but English is their first language.

The point is, there are significant regional and local medical device trade concerns outside of the US and European borders that are driving AHWP regulators to create their own guidance for their own purposes. Part of this is to regulate distributors more strictly. IMDRF guidance is not always a good fit, and could actually hurt regional local medical device access, or neglect to address a specific healthcare protection areas of concern to developing nations.

Since ISO and IMDRF seem to shape things more around multinational trade concerns, they neglect local and regional issues that are critical to the other 150 nation's outside the IMDRF block.

What surprised me was the very large number of distributors to manufacturer ratio, but it makes perfect sense. Hospitals in developing nations need lots of devices, and usually only a fraction of 1% are manufactured locally. Australia imports 98% of their products. Distributors play a major role as liaison for foreign imports in smaller economies. This is why AHWP regulators believe Distributors need "GDPs" (which are now based on ISO 13485 criteria).

It is clear that ISO 13485 will increasingly be used by distributors, especially abroad, where regulators will adopt the AHWP guidance. AHWP includes 23 nations covering far more citizens on earth than all the IMDRF members combined! So yes, distributors will not only be expected to be using ISO 13485 in the future, if they do not, they may fail a GDP inspection and suffer consequences from the local regulatory authorities.

I do however believe the third party certification to ISO 13485 will remain voluntary for them, but the requirements will still have to be met under AHWP GDP, as they are transferred to national laws. Singapore already has a legal GDP regulation.
 

Sidney Vianna

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Re: ISO 13485:2016 Pre-Release News and Discussion

The point regarding the use of ISO 13485 for distributors is increasingly important.
In the Aviation sector, the hardware distribution network is also extremely critical and it is a well known fact that bogus parts (counterfeit) are a huge risk to flight safety and aerospace distributors are also subjected to Civil Aviation Authority oversight.

From a voluntary QMS perspective, the Industry decided that there should be a standard that addressed the specific needs of the distributors and AS/EN 9120 was developed for that purpose.

There is, however, one tremendous difference between the Aviation and the Medical Device sectors: the pace of technology adoption and new products being introduced in the market place is tremendously higher in Medical Devices.

Type certification of aircraft makes the process for hardware change/re-design much slower, so the distribution channels are not excessively challenged from that perspective, while in the Medical Device field, new equipment is developed continually.
 
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