What are APQP and PPAP?

Stijloor

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Super Moderator
Hi,
I work for a large FMCG who is introducing major changes both system and machine wise. Currently we dont do any process capability, FMEA's etc but are very keen and have the support to put what is needed in place to be a WCM.
But as part of bringing some structure to our processes we are looking at using APQP , without trying to scare some of the guys here by scaring them with a load of new tools.

Im putting a workshop together to give a tiny bit of why we want a capable process, very top line what the 5 stages are and a snippet of FMEA and process capabillity to really show the benefits get buy in then and then start the ball rolling. Workshop going to involve statapult so they practically can see what happening. (They will already had basic training in A3 problem solving, understand distribution and S.D).

After all that just really wanting any help on if this is right thing to do and advice or basic exercises which will help really!
Thanks Newby Jane :)

Hello Jane,

The AIAG APQP guidelines are similar to the activities listed in clause 7.1 "Planning for Product Realization." You may want to point this out.

I can share an excercise with you that I conduct at the beginning of the APQP Course.
  • I break the group in teams of two.
  • Each team lists 5 problems that they have recently experienced.
  • Next they select the #1 problem and list the possible root causes.
  • Then I ask them to list all activities/controls that should have been implemented to prevent that problem form occurring.
  • I then point out how very smart we are in retrospect.
  • I explain that APQP asks us to be proactive and smart beforehand.
  • Next, I engage the group in a discussion about how much time they spend on proactive work versus reactive work and the costs associated with it.
I have some other APQP training stuff that I will dig up.

Good luck!

Stijloor.
 
J

jhaworth

Thanks Stijloor, I think I will give that a go and anything else you find would be a great help. Thanks very much. Jane
 

Jim Wynne

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Hi,
I work for a large FMCG who is introducing major changes both system and machine wise. Currently we dont do any process capability, FMEA's etc but are very keen and have the support to put what is needed in place to be a WCM.
But as part of bringing some structure to our processes we are looking at using APQP , without trying to scare some of the guys here by scaring them with a load of new tools.

Im putting a workshop together to give a tiny bit of why we want a capable process, very top line what the 5 stages are and a snipet of FMEA and process capabillity to really show the benefits get buy in then and then start the ball rolling. Workshop going to involve statapult so they practically can see what happening. (They will already had basic training in A3 problem solving, understand distribution and S.D).

Welcome, Jane. You might find that in general you get better results when you define your abbreviations. My assumption is that "FMCG" stands for "Fast Moving Consumer Goods" (a guess based on Googling) and "WCM" is "World Class Manufacturer" (my own guess), but I don't know what "stata "A3 problem solving" means. I'm guessing also that "statapult" refers to (broken link removed).
 
J

jhaworth

Hi Jim, Sorry I forget at times and slip into jargon mode!!
I work for a large food manufacturer who is working to be a world class manufacturer. We are very much at the start of that and laying the foundations. Most managers have gone through basic A3 problem solving which is a structured problem solving method (used commonly at Toytoa, there are many variants with 8D, PDCA and DMAIC styles) we have used it very much to get them to use data in solving problems to track the problem and to ensure they get to the root cause, so all basic stuff. And yes that is a statapult which we will practically be able to show if you control and reduce your variables then your process is more consistent. Thanks Jane
 
T

TOS99

Hello,
Can any1 explain difference for PPAP for inhouse manufacture products of auto OEMs ?


:thanx:
 
A

alebrijes

:confused:

I have been working in automotive sector for 12 years as Quality/Product/Manufacturing engineer, but in the previous internal audit the audit asked me if all ( Machine, Device, Tools for MFg., hertz to speed, thermolecters, chronometer.... ) included in the control plan must calibrated ???
I am mix up.

Anyone can explain me if there is a criteria to define what kind of device must calibrated ?
 

Stijloor

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Super Moderator
:confused:

I have been working in automotive sector for 12 years as Quality/Product/Manufacturing engineer, but in the previous internal audit the audit asked me if all ( Machine, Device, Tools for MFg., hertz to speed, thermolecters, chronometer.... ) included in the control plan must calibrated ???
I am mix up.

Anyone can explain me if there is a criteria to define what kind of device must calibrated ?

Just for clarification: What QMS Standard applies to your organization?
  • ISO 9001:2008?
  • ISO/TS 16949:2009?
  • Other?

Stijloor.
 
Q

QC Lifer

I also have a question about PPAP submission - I am being told I have to resubmit even PPAP due to moving to a new address, what is required when you move facilities, is it a full level 3?

Can any one help me on this?

QC Lifer:cool:
 
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Stijloor

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Super Moderator
I also have a question about PPAP submission -I am being told i have to resubmit even PPAP due to moving to a new address, what is required when you move facilities, is it a full level 3?

Can any one help me on this?

QC Lifer:cool:

On this one you have to notify your Customer, who in turn will tell you what the submission requirements will be.

Stijloor.
 
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