New PSW (Part Submission Warrant) - 4th Edition PPAP Manual

Jim Wynne

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Hello, I did not know where to post my question so excuse me if this is not the place to be. I have a dispute with a supplier regarding submitting a level III PPAP with a PSW. I am getting a very hard time from them because they are leaving quite a few answers blank, no n/a, no applicable part revisions, etc. Unless I am mistaken, all PSW information should at least be answered with a n/a correct? This is why I am rejecting their PPAP. Thanks in advance for the insight.

There is no standard rule, but it's good practice to use "NA" instead of leaving a field blank so that we know that the supplier didn't just overlook the field. I can't think of an instance where the part/drawing revision information wouldn't be applicable.

It's often helpful to compose your own PPAP requirements as a supplement to the AIAG requirements. You can see an example (which I wrote) here (PDF). Note that in the section dealing with the PSW there's a requirement for not leaving spaces blank.
 

mbehmazia

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Thanks Jim. I am far past that point as I already developed my own PPAP checklist with similar requirements. The supplier just contacted me back and said their customers complete most of the PSW for them. To me that's placing the cart before the horse. However we do need to give them sufficient information to fully complete the PSW, so far we have not.
 

Howard Atkins

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You are the customer what you want is what you should get.
Please remember that you have a requirement to develop the supplier

7.4.1.2 Supplier quality management system development
The organization shall perform supplier quality management system development with the goal of supplier conformity with this Technical Specification.

This is exactly what you need to do in regards to PPAP
 
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tbishop

Thanks Jim. I am far past that point as I already developed my own PPAP checklist with similar requirements. The supplier just contacted me back and said their customers complete most of the PSW for them. To me that's placing the cart before the horse. However we do need to give them sufficient information to fully complete the PSW, so far we have not.


As a supplier, I have always wanted to fill out as many of the fields manually, as humanly possible. Seem odd? Not really, as this is the very best way to confirm that all the data in the form is actually CORRECT. When customers fill out forms they sometimes get into the habit of cut and paste. This leads to many errors.

Just my 2 cents worth. Oh and my first post to this forum, by the way. Thanks so much for a great resource!!
 
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rsenz

Hi all, new to this forum. I appreciate the information that I've been able to find here.
 
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