Internal Auditor Qualifications - TS16949:2002

Here is what it says:

Visteon Customer Specific Requirements, Second Edition Jan. 2005
For Use With ISO/TS16949:

8.2.2V Internal audit Internal auditors shall have completed an internal auditing training class. The organization should have at least one lead auditor who has passed an accredited lead auditor class. The lead auditor may support several sites within the corporate organization. When the organization does not have a lead auditor meeting these requirements a contracted third party with the above qualifications shall perform the audits. Audit records shall be retained for a minimum of three calendar years. For larger organizations, any nonconformance found in registrar audits and internal audits shall be summarized and communicated to the organization site quality leads. The local management representative shall evaluate the need to implement a similar corrective action at the respective site.

Wish you the best

Re: Training for TS

But don't you have to pass a lead auditor class to train internal auditors?

Re: Training for TS

First of all, welcome to the cove!

From an ISO 9001 or a ISO/TS 16949, the answer is no. Different customer specifics, however will have additional requirements. Ford, for example requires TS internal auditor instructors to meet their requirements for internal auditors.

Re: Internal Auditor Qualifications, TS16949:2002 ?

NOTE: This is an old thread. See: ISO 10011 Dead - ISO 19011 Is Released - A summary of differences

4.39.2 Or, have conducted at least 5 internal ISO/TS 16949 internal audits during the prior 24 months under the supervision of an auditor trained as specified in 4.39.1 . The audits will need to have covered all requirements of the technical specification and all processes directly impacting Ford part quality at least once over the 5 or more audits.

Internal Auditor Trainer Qualifications
4.39.3 The training listed in 4.39.1 above shall be conducted by trainer(s) who have themselves successfully met the requirements of 4.39.1 or 4.39.2.
4.39.4 Process and Product audits may be conducted by appropriate process specialists from the affected areas without full quality management auditor training.

Bob

Bob - Where can I find more information on these internal auditor requirements?

My company is seriously considering TS 16949 certification specifically for Ford and I was unaware of these requirements.

Thanks

It is very important to know and understand ISO/TS 16949:2009 as well as the applicable (automotive) Customer-Specific Requirements.

Look at Page xii, par 0.5. It states: "This Technical Specification, coupled with applicable customer-specific requirements, defines the fundamental quality system requirements for those subscribing to this Technical Specification."

(Emphasis mine)

Ford CSR's. (broken link removed)

Look at Page 25, Par 4.37.

rvanelli said:

Where can I find more information on these internal auditor requirements? <snip>

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Again, this is an old thread, but you can find the Ford Customer Specifics at the IATF Global Oversighte website at: (broken link removed)

Stijloor said:

<snip> Look at Page 25, Par 4.37.

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Which says:

Internal Auditor Qualifications - Internal quality management system auditors shall be qualified as stated below.

Be trained and evaluated in the following areas:

• The Technical Specification ISO/TS 16949
• Related core tools (e.g. APQP, SPC, MSA, FMEA, PPAP)
• Applicable customer-specific requirements, and
• The automotive process approach to auditing.

And, as part of the training, participates in practice sessions equivalent to one audit day in:

Case study audits, and/or Auditing role plays/simulations, and/or On-site audits.

Note: Core tools and customer specifics can be taught by company or Industry recognized experts/specialists.
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Or, have conducted at least 5 internal ISO/TS 16949 internal audits during the prior 24 months under the supervision of an auditor trained as specified in the section above. The audits will need to have covered all requirements of the technical specification and all processes directly impacting Ford part quality at least once over the 5 or more audits.